disappointed with HAED chart

[cairee]

I bought the chart for Ruth Sandersons Golden Wood. a lovely picture, but the chart does not do it justice at all! the tree tops, trunks and even a couple dresses are charted solid black! black shouldnt be used at all in this picture in my opinion.
I am considering recharting the black areas to better match the picture. would doing this be a violation of the copyright? or is editing ok

[bookknurd]

You could always try emailing them and seeing if they're willing to rework some of the colors. The worst that can happen is they say no and then you could try to change the colors yourself. I know they're good at working with the charts.

Also, I don't think there's an issue with you changing the chart for your own work. However, slightly altering the chart and then selling it as your own work would be a copyright infringement, as I understand it.

[Mrs Milkybar Kid]

That particular chart was discussed recently in this thread, raising the same points that you mentioned regarding the amount of black used. Apparently Michele @ HAED has no plans to rechart it..........

[LastingAllure]

Oh my goodness I had the same complaint! Black is ok in some areas but it shouldn't be used. Most artists stay away from black because there is no true black in nature or life unless it is dyed, and even then there is always a tint of color in black. I find 310 has a bluish tint to it so it kind of doesn't make sense...

I am stitching this right now and started in the top right hand corner, haven't worked on it because it is too dark. I emailed HAED and they said they won't be recharging it it's a shame because the painting itself is so vibrant and radiates light with no black in it anywhere.

My only suggestion would be to change the colors as you go...

[bookknurd]

That's disappointing. You would think they would consider re-doing it since it seems like so many people have issues with the coloring. Hope you can work something out.

[cairee]

well I have started recharting the black areas, it will be quite time consuming to do this so it will be a while (months, years?)before I can get started on stitching. good thing I have other projects to keep me busy.

its a shame HAED will not rechart it, especially if there are several complants about it.

[crafterglen]

It may be worth a few of you asking again if they see there are so many of you think it is wrong you can't all be wrong can you? they are usually pretty good at this too, give it a go.

[Fljotsdale]

I've just looked up the pictures for this one, and you are quite right - there should NOT be any black - certainly not solid black - anywhere. The darkest dresses are coloured, not black, and the trees are golden browns. What are HAED thinking of? I would send it back, myself, and demand my money back, if they won't adjust the chart to show the real colours.
Surely, it's a violation of the Trades Description Act, or something?

[Nachstenliebe]

I too had to look it up.. what a shame! I agree that black really wouldn't do the design justice..

[Parksfarm]

While I agree that it would be nicer if there wasn't as much black - the finished product looks good to me...

http://heavenandearthdesigns.com/bmz_ca ... 0x450.jpeg" target="_blank

I've often thought the same on a couple of the ones I'm working on but they seem to look good in the end.

[Fizzbw]

I haven't done a HAED but with Skitzzzz's designs she rarely uses 310 but nearly always 939 for dark patches, it looks brilliant. Mind you you often find very strange colours, like green in faces but they work so well in the end!

Niki x

[Mystonique]

Even though HAED have said they won't be recharting I'd still inquire because it's possible they just haven't had enough complaints/issues from the users to justify the effort ... a few more might make them rethink.

[Stitchinkitty]

If the picture shown is true to colour I can't see a problemTo me it is a vy dark brown not black.Maybe you could substitute a very dark brown.As the pictues is full of candlelight/lantern light /whatever a dark brown should work.

[Fljotsdale]

While I agree that it would be nicer if there wasn't as much black - the finished product looks good to me...

http://heavenandearthdesigns.com/bmz_ca ... 0x450.jpeg" target="_blank" target="_blank

I've often thought the same on a couple of the ones I'm working on but they seem to look good in the end.

Oh No! I don't like that at all. It doesn't look at all like the original, imo. So dull and dreary and the lovely coloured dresses of the original are just - drab in this!

[Fljotsdale]

well I have started recharting the black areas, it will be quite time consuming to do this so it will be a while (months, years?)before I can get started on stitching. good thing I have other projects to keep me busy.

its a shame HAED will not rechart it, especially if there are several complants about it.

I think it is quite disgraceful the way HAED designs seem to come out so much darker than the original paintings; but usually they are within reasonably acceptable limits. This one isn't, imo. I'd send it back and ask for my money back. If enough people did that, they have to do something about how they darken everything. I feel really cross on your behalf!

[Point Pelee]

I agree with Fljotsdale, I think the black is very harsh...I am disappointed that Haed refuses to budge on changing the chart. I have looked at this chart for a long time, being on this forum certainly does help...I almost bought this one. When I saw the feedback on this forum, I'm glad I put this chart on the back burner.

I think I will send an email to Haed, and let them know the feedback from this forum in regards to not changing the chart. Who knows, one more disgruntled stitcher, may give them the impetus to change!

Regards,
Sandra

[thisisadiana]

I actually prefer the finished painting with darker colours, as it looks like they're off to a late night party.

But yeah,there's no way this is a faithful copy of the original, which is what you wanted to buy. I'm sorry for all your recharting woes. But definitely send HAED a letter about the problem. I'd even consider telling the original artist about the problem as well. She might not be happy that so many people are unhappy with her work and pester HAED herself.

[Emmylou]

While I agree that it would be nicer if there wasn't as much black - the finished product looks good to me...

http://heavenandearthdesigns.com/bmz_ca ... 0x450.jpeg" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

I've often thought the same on a couple of the ones I'm working on but they seem to look good in the end.

Oh No! I don't like that at all. It doesn't look at all like the original, imo. So dull and dreary and the lovely coloured dresses of the original are just - drab in this!

I agree with you, one of the dresses has lots of blue in it in the painting but in the finished stitching it's black. It's a light blue so I'm not sure why it's been charted as black. I much prefer the painting. I hope you're able to change it in some way.

[Point Pelee]

I received an email from Linda Hodge this morning. Linda is replying to my email, that i sent to Michelle yesterday. I conveyed to Michelle my disappointment that, she would not reconsider to rechart Golden Wood. Linda said that everyone was away this morning, but will follow up me, when they are back to the office.

I expressed that the black appears to be too harsh, and that I would like to purchase this design, only if she would rechart; otherwise Golden Wood will be on the back burner for now!

I hope to have positive news from Haed, will keep you posted.

Regards,
Sandra

[LilacDragon]

IMHO - other than the fact that there are trees and the number of women in the picture, the pattern barely resembles the painting. Too bad, it is a lovely painting.